sexymonkey
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Post by sexymonkey on Sept 16, 2006 22:41:33 GMT -5
I don't like the Vox's distortion, just not my thing. It's like an SS on steroids though, just has like half a tube or something like that.
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Post by Turbo7MN on Sept 16, 2006 22:45:40 GMT -5
The Classic 30 has pretty good distortion. You should also check out an Epiphone valve Jr. if you don't need a lot of volume. Something with a lot of clean headroom and a good pedal is certainly a good option, albeit a more expensive one. Keep saving your money and you'll be able to afford something real nice. A good quality amp makes all the difference with pedals as well. I have a friend that played his Gibson SG with P-90s through nothing but a Boss ME-50 (great effects board by the way!) and computer speakers. He was dead-set on selling his guitar until he came over today and plugged into one of my amps  . |
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Post by theinsaneguitarist on Sept 16, 2006 22:49:03 GMT -5
well all the volume i need is over our drummer
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Post by Turbo7MN on Sept 16, 2006 22:49:15 GMT -5
Hybrids (tube preamp, SS poweramp) are a gimmick. If you drive transistors with tubes, guess what it's gonna sound like? It doesn't matter what kind of preamp it has, if there's transistors in the power stage you're going to be getting all kinds of fun SS farty noises when you turn it up. It's all or nothing.
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Post by theinsaneguitarist on Sept 16, 2006 22:52:34 GMT -5
what do you mean by that and do you know what genre
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Post by valvetronix on Sept 16, 2006 22:55:53 GMT -5
Hybrids (tube preamp, SS poweramp) are a gimmick. If you drive transistors with tubes, guess what it's gonna sound like? It doesn't matter what kind of preamp it has, if there's transistors in the power stage you're going to be getting all kinds of fun SS farty noises when you turn it up. It's all or nothing. Hardly accurate. The power controll on the back of the AD50VTs is a almost perfect mimick of 'driving' a tube amp. Capacitors are just as capable to be 'driven' as a tube. See my hotroding post in custom guitar forum. It IS NOT a tube amp. But its getting damn close. |
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Post by theinsaneguitarist on Sept 16, 2006 23:00:50 GMT -5
btw is there anymore kinds of amp beside tube and ss if so how are they different
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Post by theinsaneguitarist on Sept 16, 2006 23:01:59 GMT -5
i know this off topic but what is the karma thing on here
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Post by valvetronix on Sept 16, 2006 23:06:11 GMT -5
Its just how much people like you... You can add or remove karma from people... Not really usefull...
Tube and SS is it really.
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Post by theinsaneguitarist on Sept 16, 2006 23:06:55 GMT -5
kk wanted to know for a pole
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Post by valvetronix on Sept 16, 2006 23:09:18 GMT -5
No prob... I replied to your active/passive pickup question btw... was just a bit slower than the others
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vash03
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Post by vash03 on Sept 17, 2006 0:06:36 GMT -5
the valvetronix amps are good...some of the few solid state amps I really like.
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Post by shiggityshwa on Sept 17, 2006 9:49:57 GMT -5
btw is there anymore kinds of amp beside tube and ss if so how are they different there's hybrid, which are a mix between both, as turbo7mn described above. IMO they're just higher priced solid state amps and not really worth the money. You should go to tube as quick as you can.... |
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Post by Turbo7MN on Sept 17, 2006 10:36:38 GMT -5
Hybrids (tube preamp, SS poweramp) are a gimmick. If you drive transistors with tubes, guess what it's gonna sound like? It doesn't matter what kind of preamp it has, if there's transistors in the power stage you're going to be getting all kinds of fun SS farty noises when you turn it up. It's all or nothing. Hardly accurate. The power controll on the back of the AD50VTs is a almost perfect mimick of 'driving' a tube amp. Capacitors are just as capable to be 'driven' as a tube. See my hotroding post in custom guitar forum. It IS NOT a tube amp. But its getting damn close. But it's nothing more than a "mimic". I still don't like them. If they were just as good as a real tube amp I wouldn't be wasting my time building my own amps now, would I? For the record, a capacitor is something that stores voltage, much like a battery. There's plenty of 'em in amps, but only for power supply filtering and interstage coupling. I'm assuming you mean transistor. I know transistors can be "driven". My point is they don't sound nearly as good as tubes when you do so. Most overdrive and distortion pedals rely on transistors, but after you run them through an all-tube signal path in the amp it "warms" the sound to the point of sounding good. That's why I always say pedals will sound a lot better with a good amp. |
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Post by valvetronix on Sept 17, 2006 11:37:05 GMT -5
Hardly accurate. The power controll on the back of the AD50VTs is a almost perfect mimick of 'driving' a tube amp. Capacitors are just as capable to be 'driven' as a tube. See my hotroding post in custom guitar forum. It IS NOT a tube amp. But its getting damn close. But it's nothing more than a "mimic". I still don't like them. If they were just as good as a real tube amp I wouldn't be wasting my time building my own amps now, would I? [glow=red,2,300]OMGZ0RZ Hes so l337 he makes his own amps.[/glow]For the record, a capacitor is something that stores voltage, much like a battery. There's plenty of 'em in amps, but only for power supply filtering and interstage coupling. I'm assuming you mean transistor. No. Like I said, view my hotrodding technique post.I know transistors can be "driven". My point is they don't sound nearly as good as tubes when you do so. Most overdrive and distortion pedals rely on transistors, but after you run them through an all-tube signal path in the amp it "warms" the sound to the point of sounding good. That's why I always say pedals will sound a lot better with a good amp. Sound as good? Subjective. Blatant bashing of anything non-tube is not helpfull to anyone, other than to make you feel superior to someone who decides to play SS. For the record. In America I use a Vox AD50VT (SS Hybrid), Vox AC30 (All Tube), and Behringer VAMP PRO. In Germany, where I am from, I play though a Marshall JTM45, and Marshall Jcm 800. Both with Groove Tubes GT6l6Cs. I run these through 4-4x12 200w Celestians. I am never going to say SS is better than tube, or tube is better than SS. I enjoy my tube amps more than the Valvetronix. BUT my tubeamps cost 1700$ and 2000$. His price range is not anywhere near that. Lowprice/quality/power/sound tube amps, do not stack up with lowprice SS amps this is due to the simple facts of supply and demand, and production costs. Blindly buying an amp because it is 'tube' is idiotic. |
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